Internal Grilles

Various grilles designed for internal extract points though some can also be used for supply.

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Adjustable Ceiling Extract Valve - White - KU
Adjustable Ceiling Extract Valve - White - KU
£ 7.76 now £ 5.29
Description High-Quality White Powder-Coated Metal Adjustable Ceiling Extract Valve with lockable settings. Function The KU ceiling extract valve are for installation on ceilings. The valve has ...
Brushed Stainless Steel Ceiling Extract or Supply Valves
Brushed Stainless Steel Ceiling Extract or Supply Valves
£ 14.99
Brushed Stainless Steel ceiling valves are designed for ventilation intake and exhaust. They provide smooth control with the ability to accurately adjust air flow. These valves are manufactured fr...
Ceiling Valve - White Plastic Extract Grille
Ceiling Valve - White Plastic Extract Grille
£ 3.65
Ceiling Valve - White Plastic Adjustable Extract Grille are used as an intake generally for ducted systems, commonly mounted in ceilings. Constructed in white plastic with integral mounting ring. T...
Egg Crate - Plastic - EGGPLAS
Egg Crate - Plastic - EGGPLAS
£ 5.99
White Plastic Egg crate grille with spigot on the rear. Mostly used internally but can be used externally if required.In 100mm only...
Egg Crate Grille with Dust panel filter 1 inch- 300x300
Egg Crate Grille with Dust panel filter 1 inch- 300x300
£ 109.89
Ceiling Mounted Egg Crate Grille with Removable 1inch dust panel G4 Filter for - 300 x 300 The included filter is a G4 panel filter, not a grease filter as in the picture. Egg-crate grilles have...
Egg Crate Grille with Dust panel filter 1 inch- 595x595
Egg Crate Grille with Dust panel filter 1 inch- 595x595
£ 127.65
Ceiling Mounted Egg Crate Grille with Removable 1inch dust panel G4 Filter for - 595 x 595 (SUITABLE for SUSPENDED CEILING TILE REPLACEMENT Egg-crate grilles have a 13mm x 13mm square core and w...
Egg Crate Grille with G2 Dust panel filter 1 inch- 300x300
Egg Crate Grille with G2 Dust panel filter 1 inch- 300x300
£ 109.89
Ceiling Mounted Egg Crate Grille with Removable 1inch dust panel G2 Filter for - 300 x 300 The included filter is a G2 filter, not a G4 filter as in the picture. Egg-crate grilles have a 13mm x ...
Egg Crate Grilles - EC - Silver
Egg Crate Grilles - EC - Silver
£ 29.71
Egg-crate grilles in Silver have a 13mm x 13mm square core and with their high free area are ideal for return air applications. Supplied as standard with countersunk holes for fixing (except the 595 x...
Egg Crate Grilles - EC - White
Egg Crate Grilles - EC - White
£ 11.67
Egg-crate grilles in White have a 13mm x 13mm square core and with their high free area are ideal for return air applications. Supplied as standard with countersunk holes for fixing (except the 595 x ...
Internal Round Grille - 2100W
Internal Round Grille - 2100W
£ 9.50
Internal Round Louvre Grille. Available in White....
Metal Ceiling Exhaust Valve - Chromium Plated - KUS-E
Metal Ceiling Exhaust Valve - Chromium Plated - KUS-E
£ 7.49
Description Metal exhaust valve with lockable settings. Function The KUS outlet valve is designed for mounting on ceilings, walls or directly on ducts with use of the supplied special assembly...
Metal Fire Rated Exhaust valve
Metal Fire Rated Exhaust valve
£ 18.99
Description Metal exhaust grille with integrated fire damper. Tested to BS1365-2 and tested in timber floor/ceiling. Suitable replacement for fire rated dampers. Function This is an exhaust diff...
Metal Fire Rated Supply valve
Metal Fire Rated Supply valve
£ 27.50
Description Metal supply grille with integrated fire damper. Tested to BS1365-2 and tested in timber floor/ceiling. Suitable replacement for fire rated dampers. Function This is an supply diffus...
Metal Grille Box - Plenum - Top Entry
Metal Grille Box - Plenum - Top Entry
£ 28.99
Metal Grille Box - Plenum - GB used in conjunction with egg-crate ceiling grilles and ceiling diffuser grilles to connect to ductwork, with top entry spigot. Available in sizes up to 600mm square a...
Metal Supply Valve - White - KUSW
Metal Supply Valve - White - KUSW
£ 8.61
This is an supply diffuser for installation on ceiling or wall. It can also be used for supply air. The diffuser has a lockable central cone which is rotated to adjust the pressure and consequently th...
Mini Diffuser - 100mm
Mini Diffuser - 100mm
£ 30.28
Mini diffuser with 100mm spigot for ceiling mounting. Extensively used in Heat Recovery and Whole House ventilation. Can also be used for extract if needed...
Non Vision (Air Transfer) Grille - No Flange
Non Vision (Air Transfer) Grille - No Flange
£ 48.00
Non vision grilles are manufactured with a fixed inverted V profile to provide a vision proof air transfer grille. Used in doors and partitions for free ventilation. Non vision grilles are available...
Non Vision (Air Transfer) Grille - With Flange
Non Vision (Air Transfer) Grille - With Flange
£ 55.42
Non vision grilles are manufactured with a fixed inverted V profile to provide a vision proof air transfer grille. Used in doors and partitions for free ventilation. Non vision grilles are available...
Non Vision 150mm x 150mm (Air Transfer) Grille - With Flange - MILL FINISH
Non Vision 150mm x 150mm (Air Transfer) Grille - With Flange - MILL FINISH
£ 34.65
Non vision grilles are manufactured with a fixed inverted V profile to provide a vision proof air transfer grille. Used in doors and partitions for free ventilation. Non vision grilles are available...
Perforated Face Grilles - PFD
Perforated Face Grilles - PFD
£ 32.34
Perforated grilles are medium capacity return or exhaust outlets. The perforated core has 5mm dia staggered holes on 6mm centres and provides 50% free area. Their design is clean and unobtrusive pro...
Plastic Grille Boxes (Plenum Boxes) - PB
Plastic Grille Boxes (Plenum Boxes) - PB
£ 8.87
Our range of polymer plenum boxes offer a highly cost effective and lightweight method of ductwork connection to our grille range. The black finish improves installation aesthetics and the non-corros...
RING LEADER Air Valve Fixing Ring
RING LEADER Air Valve Fixing Ring
£ 3.29
The RING LEADER® solution. The challenge with air valves is that you need to fix them securely to the ceiling. BUT, as every engineer knows, the holes in the spigot provided are always positioned ...
Single Deflection Grille 400mm with OBD damper
Single Deflection Grille 400mm with OBD damper
£ 58.08
Single Deflection Grille 400mm with OBD damper Single deflection grilles have a single row of individually adjustable horizontal blades. They are suitable for sidewall supply & extract in a wide ra...
Single Deflection Grilles - SD
Single Deflection Grilles - SD
£ 32.37
Single Deflection Grilles - Type SD Single deflection grilles have a single row of individually adjustable horizontal blades. They are suitable for sidewall supply & extract in a wide range of appl...
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2 x 204x60mm Insulated Rectangular Vertical 45° Bend2 x 204x60mm Insulated Rectangular Vertical 90° Bend1 x Elta Variable Speed Drive IP66 - 7.5KW2 x Elta Variable Speed Drive IP66 - 2.2KW1 x FU 075 52 Frequency Inverter (IP20)1 x FU 22 25 Frequency Inverter1 x FRQ5-4A V2 Inverter Speed Controller1 x FU 15 40 Frequency Inverter1 x FRQ-10A V2 Inverter Speed controller1 x Helios TSD 3.0 Transformer Speed Control (400v)1 x FRQ5-10A Inverter Speed controller1 x FU 15 16 Frequency Inverter2 x Elta Variable Speed Drive IP66 - 1.5KW1 x Elta Variable Speed Drive IP66 - 4.0KW1 x Frequency converter FU 075 14 - IP661 x Elta Variable Speed Drive IP66 - 0.75KW1 x NKS-D swirl diffuser v-300 x 300mm1 x FU 075 04 Frequency Inverter (IP20)1 x Frequency converter RUCK - FU 075 211 x FU 22 04 Frequency Inverter1 x ELTA - Three Phase Transformer 3amps1 x ELTA - Three Phase Transformer 10amps1 x Elta Variable Speed Drive IP66 - 2.2KW (1ph to 3ph)1 x ATEX rated 3-phase Speed Control - R-DK4 KT (EX)1 x Elta 10 Amp Electronic single phase speed controller.1 x Circular Ceiling Diffuser - TST 1251 x Helios - FIUK-11KW 24.0A - FREQUENCY INVERTER1 x Circular Ceiling Diffuser - TST 1001 x Balance S Diffuser - NO RING - 125mm2 x ELTA - Single Phase Transformer 2amps1 x PCA Diffuser - PCA-3151 x Curved Blade Grille 600x600 (2way blow)2 x Electronic extractor fan speed controller - FSC 1.51 x Round ceiling diffuser 400mm1 x Circular Ceiling Diffuser - TST 2001 x Circular Ceiling Diffuser - TST 1601 x EC6H - Reversible Group Fan Electronic Controller1 x JSR 200 Painted RAL50181 x Elta 2 Amp Electronic single phase speed controller.1 x Balance S Diffuser - NO RING - 100mm1 x 5-Speed Controller for use with Elta SAX Classic Fans1 x Round ceiling diffuser 300mm1 x Airvent ceiling fan controller1 x Elta 3 Amp Electronic single phase speed controller.3 x ELTA - Single Phase Transformer 8amps2 x Round ceiling diffuser 200mm2 x Elta 6 Amp Electronic single phase speed controller with TK1 x ELTA - Single Phase Transformer 16amps2 x EFSC-3N- Single Phase Speed Control2 x Elta 3 Amp Electronic single phase speed controller with TK1 x Round ceiling diffuser 250mm2 x AIRVENT speed control - AIR4019611 x ELTA - Single Phase Transformer 12amps1 x Round ceiling diffuser 350mm1 x COM-31 x ELTA - Single Phase Transformer 4amps2 x Elta 6 Amp Electronic single phase speed controller.1 x EFSC-6N- Single Phase Speed Control1 x PCA Diffuser - PCA-2501 x ELTA - Single Phase Transformer 10amps2 x Remote Timer Control - 13512 x Run On Timer - 5s - 4hrs - RT5A2 x Push Timer Switch - ZA42 x Helios ZNE Electronic Fan Overrun Timer1 x Time Delay Unit - DT20B3 x Multi Input Run On Timer - 0 - 20min - CFCU1 x S & P Aluminium Axial Fan Louvre Shutter - PER-CR- 6301 x S & P Aluminium Axial Fan Louvre Shutter - PER-CR- 5001 x Easy-fix termination kit - High Rise Ventilator - EFT1 x S & P Aluminium Axial Fan Louvre Shutter - PER-CR- 3551 x Elta Wall Cowl SWC56/632 x GRA-100 External Grill by S&P1 x Elta Louvre Shutter - 400mm1 x Elta Wall Cowl SWC35/401 x Elta Wall Cowl SWC25/311 x Elta Wall Cowl SWC45/502 x 220x90mm Insulated Rectangular Horizontal 45° Bend2 x 220x90mm Insulated Rectangular Vertical 45° Bend2 x 220x90mm Insulated Rectangular Vertical 90° Bend1 x Jet Cowl - 315mm1 x Egg Crate Grille with G2 Dust panel filter 1 inch- 300x3001 x Egg Crate Grille with Dust panel filter 1 inch- 595x5951 x Single Deflection Grille 400mm with OBD damper1 x Non Vision 150mm x 150mm (Air Transfer) Grille - With Flange - MILL FINISH1 x Mini Diffuser - 100mm1 x Egg Crate Grille with Dust panel filter 1 inch- 300x3001 x Economy Airvent 150mm Fan With Pullcord & Shutters1 x Same Day Shipping Surcharge - City Sprint1 x 204x60mm x 1m Insulated Rectangular Duct1 x Economy Airvent 100mm Fan with Timer2 x DPD 12PM Delivery Surcharge1 x Northern Ireland Pallet Surcharge1 x DV-ROF-V-225 Roof mounted unit1 x D2E-146-AP47-751 x DPD 10:30AM Delivery Surcharge2 x 204x60mm Insulated Rectangular Horizontal 45° Bend1 x Universal Pipe Fixing Clip1 x 204 x 60mm Duct to Fitting Connector for use with Insulated Thermal Ducting1 x 220x90mm Insulated Rectangular T-Piece1 x Small Centrifugal Fans CBM/2-133/190 185w1 x Manrose T12 STANDARD Transformer- T12S1 x Economy Airvent 150mm Fan1 x DV-ROF-V-315 Roof mounted unit2 x Pallet Delivery Surcharge1 x CAB-150 ECOWATT Energy Efficient Acoustic Box Fan1 x 18M - 80mm PVC flexible ducting1 x DPD SATURDAY Delivery Surcharge1 x Manrose 150mm - XF150BHP1 x Small Centrifugal Fan - CBM/4-160/150-125 W1 x Control board kit Smarty 4X P 1.1 F2 Fan 230V2 x EBM-Papst D3G133-BF05-14 Double inlet1 x Economy Airvent 100mm Fan with Timer/Humidistat/Pullcord1 x G2E160−AL19−56 FLUE FAN1 x HIMF - Mixed Flow Fan 125mm Inline Fan1 x AW Sileo EC Plate Axial Fan - Three Phase - 1000mm1 x Lo-Carbon Sentinel Kinetic BH - LEFT1 x D2E146-AP47-331 x CRBB/3-250/084M EC 2H01 x Small Centrifugal Fan - CBM/4-180/184-150 W1 x D2E146-AP47-C11 x CTVT/4-400 High Temp Roof Fan - 51369260001 x AW Sileo EC Plate Axial Fan - Three Phase - 800mm1 x Economy Airvent 100mm Fan with Timer & Shutter1 x HQS Bathroom Axial Flow Fan - 125mm1 x HPA Heavy Duty Flexible Ducting - HPA300-FD51 x Helios DDF-200 Roof Cowl1 x 204x60mm Insulated Rectangular T-Piece1 x EBM-Papst D3G160-BP03-15 Double inlet1 x Maico EN31- Wall Mounted Fan1 x Capacitor 2uf for use with the EBM A4E range1 x Manrose Auto Shutter - XF150AP1 x CAB-355 ECOWATT Energy Efficient Acoustic Box Fan1 x AW Sileo EC Plate Axial Fan - Three Phase - 630mm1 x Fresh Air control carbon filter - 125mm1 x Elta - SMT 125 Mixvent Inline Fan - Clearance Stock Line1 x LF-ME04F071LC3AC1 x CMT-2 180/75 0.75KW - Single inlet centrifugal fan with inlet and outlet flange connections - 200mm1 x CRBB/3-160/052M EC 1H0 MP - Radial Impeller - 160mm1 x D2E146-HT67-021 x CAB-400 ECOWATT Energy Efficient Acoustic Box Fan1 x CRBB/3-190/060M EC 1HO MP - External Rotor Motor Radial Fans1 x Carriage for Scottish Highlands1 x AW Sileo EC Plate Axial Fan - Three Phase - 710mm1 x CAB-250 ECOWATT Energy Efficient Acoustic Box Fan2 x Vent Axia ACM 100 T (Timer Model) inline mixed flow duct fan3 x Vent Axia ACM 125 T (Timer Model) inline mixed flow duct fan1 x Vent Axia ACM 150 T (Timer Model) inline mixed flow duct fan2 x Remote controller FLEX - for VEKO INT1 x S&P MULTI-REG EC FAN CONTROLLER / INTERFACE1 x REU 1.5amp Speed control - Two Speed Five-Step Transformer - Trickle and Boost1 x Helios TSW 7.5 Amp Transformer speed controller1 x HCFC 1.7 - Reversible Speed Controller for HCF sweep fans2 x Transformer 5 Speed Controller - ATC1-4TK2 x Transformer 5 Speed Controller - ATC1-10TK2 x Helios TSW 3 Amp Transformer speed controller1 x TDP-D Pressure Sensor with Display2 x Vent Axia ACM 150 inline mixed flow duct fan1 x RTRD - Three Phase Speed Controller - 2 Amp1 x RDS 11 Helios Transformer Controller With Motor Protection1 x Helios TSW 1.5 Amp Transformer speed controller1 x Helios TSW MCB Amp Transformer speed controller1 x Isolator Switch - ISOSW1 x DEF-140T Inlet Guard for the CBT-100N2 x Single phase speed controller by auto-transformer - RMB 1.5 Amp1 x Single phase speed controller by auto-transformer - RMB 3.5 Amp1 x 7 Day Programmable TIMECLOCK1 x BEAS-control module1 x Two Speed Switch - REGUL-21 x Vent Axia T-Series Controller1 x CMT-2 200/80 1.1KW - Single inlet centrifugal fan direct driven1 x Envirovent Silent MV160/100T Mixvent - Timer Model - 100mm - (5 year warranty)1 x Speed Controller - REB51 x Transformer (silent) speed controller - RE 3.0 Amp1 x CBS-60 Outlet Flange for CSB/CBT-601 x TG-K3/NTC10-01 - Duct temperature sensor1 x Transformer (silent) speed controller - RE 1.5 Amp1 x KMBI 180 Connector rectangular/circular to install on the discharge of CMT1 x CPTA-S PIR SENSOR Volt Free Contacts - Surface Mounted1 x Speed Controller - REB1-N1 x Multiflow SMB550/4-1AC1 x REB-CVF 0-10v Controller1 x FAST-TRACK RANGE 75mm - Click Ring (1 bag of 10)1 x Commercial Single or 3 phase Fan Reversing Switch - RS11 x MTP 10, 10K, Speed control1 x Transformer Speed Control - RTRE- 5.0Amp1 x Transformer Speed Control - RTRE- 7.0Amp1 x PIR Sensor - PIR21 x Speed Controller - REB11 x CBM 9-9 550w 4P VR (Open Motor)1 x Silent 100 Window Kit - windowS1 x Transformer Speed Control - RTRE- 1.5Amp1 x FFR 355 Filter Cassette1 x Vent Axia Silent 100T (TIMER)1 x PIR Sensor - PIR41 x MTS10- extractor fan 3 step switch1 x MEV Spider Wireless boost Switch - MEV-SWH-W1 x Bathroom Fan -Envirovent- Silent 100 T (Timer Model)1 x UB47- Universal Insulated Terminal1 x VTR 300 STD Filter Kit1 x Contactor Interface Station - CI91 x CBT-100N Centrifugal1 x Compact SCD450/4-1AC1 x Elta - Room Sensor - Temp/Humid/C022 x 220x90mm Insulated Rectangular Horizontal 90° Bend1 x Silentub - STUB 1001 x CBM Low Pressure Centrifugal Fan - CBM 10/10 4 Pole 550watt CVR3 x Vent Axia ACM 125 inline mixed flow duct fan1 x ACO8AC/EC AutoChangeover panel1 x VEKA INT 2000/15.0-L1 EKO1 x CO2 Room Sensor - CO2-R1 x CBM Low Pressure Centrifugal Fan - CBM 10/10 4 Pole 550watt VR1 x CSB-60 Centrifugal fan1 x Duct Termination with Mesh - 710mm1 x AXC TP - 100mm Plastic Centrifugal Inline Fan1 x VTR 500 STD Filter Kit1 x Vertical Cowl and Fan (Single Phase) - RAV400-4-11 x Duct Termination with Mesh - 100mm1 x CBA-100 Inlet Flange for CBT-1001 x CBT-80N Centrifugal1 x CBM Low Pressure Centrifugal Fan - CBM 12/12 6 Pole 736watt CVR1 x CBM Low Pressure Centrifugal Fan - CBM 9/7 4 Pole 373watt CVR1 x CBT-130N Centrifugal ATEX II 3D ExtD 125*C1 x Elta SCP400/4-1AC - IP551 x Flat Roof Terminal -OFT 5 - Asphalt1 x 100mm Round Connector with Damper1 x Potentiometer EGH 01 - for DDMP Fans1 x ACOAS/ AC/EC Auto Changeover 8Amp1 x Duct Termination with Mesh - 150mm1 x CBB-60N Centrifugal1 x Binks Bullows - Spray Booth Filter1 x KBA- Inlet Mounting 1801 x CBS-100 Outlet Flange for CBT-1001 x RUCK MTP 20, 10K, Speed control1 x CBM Low Pressure Centrifugal Fan - CBM 9/9 4 Pole 550watt 3V (3-Speed)1 x Duct Termination with Mesh - 400mm1 x CAD-COMPACT 900 ADVANCED N8 - MVHR unit1 x Silentub - STUB 2001 x CBM Low Pressure Centrifugal Fan - CBM 9/9 4 Pole 550watt C VR1 x Biflow SB315-CON4-3 - High Temperature Bifurcated Fan1 x CBM 9/7 4p 420W RE-VR1 x SDD-U Anti Vibration Pads1 x Chaysol DA 9/9 3 speed1 x Vent Axia T-Series Wall Model TX9WL1 x Duct Termination with Mesh - 200mm1 x Envirovent Silent MV160/100S Mixvent - 100mm - (5 year warranty)1 x Helios VARW 450/4 - TK1 x Spiral Ducting 1 meter - 200mm1 x TecFire Intumescent Damper - Rectangular 400x400mm1 x CBT-100N Centrifugal ATEX II 2G Exe II T31 x MEV Spider Additional Spigots1 x Duct Termination with Mesh - 315mm1 x KRJ - 120 Inlet Guard for CBB/CBT fans1 x Elta SCP315/4-1AC - IP551 x Elta SLC560/4C-3AC - IP551 x Elta SLC500/4B-1AC - IP551 x FAST-TRACK RANGE 75mm - Seal Ring (1 bag of 10)1 x Elta Skyflow SSRL710-1EC1 x CBM 7/9 4p 300W RE-VR1 x Vent Axia W300310 Controller Electronic 1.5A1 x CAD-COMPACT 500 ADVANCED N8 - MVHR unit1 x Air Quality Sensor - AQS1 x Elta Turboflow-TF - 450mm - Single phase1 x CBT-170 Centrifugal1 x Chaysol Da 12/12 CMAL - 1100W 6 Pole - Closed Motor - Three Phase1 x Elta SCP630/4-1AC - IP551 x DDMP 10-10 FLANGE1 x Purlin Box 630/710 for RAW Cowls1 x Duct Mounted Filter Box With G2 Paper AND Metal Washable Filter - 100mm1 x Dynair AL 200/4 Forward curved blade centrifugal fan.1 x DT-1 Duct Mounted Thermostat1 x Chaysol Da 15/11 CMAL - 2200W 6 Pole - Closed Motor - Three Phase1 x F7 Mini-Cell panel filter - 594 x 5941 x Elta SCP350/4-1AC - IP551 x CBS-160 Outlet Flange for CBT-1601 x CFI Lite 600 Carbon Filter1 x MUB 062 630D4 Multibox1 x REB Ecowatt Speed Control - REB-ECO1 x Ancillary Pack for SB-Biflow 250 model1 x CBM 12/9 CM/AL 1100W 6PT - Closed Motor1 x 220 x 90mm Duct to Fitting Connector for use with Insulated Thermal Ducting1 x Impeller Side Guard - 450mm1 x Elta Standard Ambient Flexible Connector - 350mm1 x Jetflow Silent SJMF-S 200-1EC1 x Dynair AL 225/4 Forward curved blade centrifugal fan.1 x JETLINE-100 ECOWATT - In Line Centrifugal Duct Fan1 x Elta SCP315/4-3AC - IP551 x Acoustic Box Fans (Inline) - CAB-1001 x Elta Standard Ambient Flexible Connector - 250mm1 x Elta SCP400/4-3AC - IP551 x Jet Fan IV 100-4 IE3 Induction Fan1 x Chaysol Da 12/12 CMAL - 736 Watt - 6 Pole1 x 100mm Round Connector1 x AL 315 EC 01 AXIALINE - High Performance Long Cased Axial Fan1 x Elta SCP560/4-1AC - IP551 x Filter Box With F7 Grade Bag Filter - 250mm1 x Envirovent 4 Way Remote Control Switch - SWHBKRF-42 x Temperature Fan Speed Controller - ATCP4-WMS1 x REU 7amp Speed control - Two Speed Five-Step Transformer - Trickle and Boost2 x Transformer 5 Speed Controller - ATC1-8TK1 x Systemair Save Connect 2.0 Internet Module2 x CS2 Current Switch1 x Temperature Fan Speed Controller - ATCP4-FLS1 x TEM 035 - 5 Speed Transformer Speed Control1 x TEM 075 - 5 Speed Transformer Speed Control1 x Helios HQW-200/2 - IP55
Reviews
Duct Mounted Inline Filter - EU4
Duct Mounted Inline Filter - EU4
£ 44.99

Well made and robust, but it was not use for my application ...